daniel tosh and what is funny

July 12, 2012 in comedy reviews, reviews

 

UPDATE:  After writing this article, the owner of The Laugh Factory made some statements on what they heard the night in question.  Read them here.  As you will soon read, watching the media run away with a story that’s little more than a second hand account can lead to some inaccuracies.  Unlike the Michael Richards incident (coincidentally at the Laugh Factory as well) where there was video proof, this is only hearsay.

Daniel Tosh
Let’s get this out of the way, apparently the media just discovered who Daniel Tosh is and were appalled to find out that his humor is offensive.  We can thank Jane Doe speaking through her blogger friend for alerting the media in an act of journalism that could make Fox News blush.  While performing at LA’s Laugh Factory recently, Tosh began a joke by saying something to the effect of “rape is always funny.”  To which Jane Doe replied (breaking standup rule #1) “rape is never funny.”  Tosh fired back with “Wouldn’t it be funny if that girl got raped by five guys right now?”

Before you could say Michael Richards, Daniel Tosh was vilified and burned at the stake.  Never mind that Jane Doe was a heckler, never mind that I’ve actually heard much worse directed at hecklers, and never mind that he was mid-joke.  Jane Doe apparently felt compelled to ruin said joke for Tosh and everyone else by yelling back instead of just leaving.

Before I go to much further I want to dispel the belief that I’m defending Tosh as a fan.  The truth is I’ve never found him that funny, and were his career to end tomorrow I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.  If his career were to end over this issue I would be bothered a great deal.  Contrary to the assumption of many, I don’t think that his comments directed at Jane were intended to be “funny” they were intended to shut her up or get her to leave.  Finding an effective way to deal with hecklers is as important to a comedian as it is for a doctor to know how to fight an infection.  They don’t happen every time but when they do you need to be prepared.

It could be said that what Tosh said directly to Jane was over the line and that in order to scold her for being rude he could have been less harsh.  We don’t know Jane Doe or what’s in her past, but I can see how a statement like the one Tosh made could be received in a threatening manner.  Since this was made public Daniel Tosh has apologized, which is his choice, it might also be nice to hear an apology from Jane for heckling.

If this whole controversy was concerned with what Tosh said to Jane, the problem could be easily rectifiable, but it seems that there is another problem here, one that is far more complex.  Is rape funny?  What can and can’t be funny?  Are there somethings that just aren’t funny, ever?  From the reactions that I seem to be seeing around the internet, some believe that rape is never funny.  The truth is, I have heard more than one funny rape joke.

What’s funny?
In my senior year of college I was involved in a series of skits, one of which turned out fairly racist.  I wasn’t directly involved in the racist sketch but I was in the class and watched their rehearsals and so I like to take responsibility for not having raised concern.  The sketch was part of a end of the year showcase for our clown class (yes I went to art school) where we performed three or four separate sketches based on historical events.  The sketch in question was a clown reenactment of the Civil Rights Movement by three white clowns.  Are you cringing yet?  The sketches had a history of being cringe worthy, the year before there was a clown reenactment of the crucifixion of Christ, and before that a clown reenactment of 9-11.

Needless to say the result was a racist catastrophe that came off looking like a trio of Klan members mocking civil rights though the use of clowns, deeply offending a number of audience members and in turn becoming what can only be described as an art school version of a race war.  I won’t go into the details of what exactly occurred during the sketch,  you can probably guess what took place.

It’s been six years since that event and I’ve replayed it over and over wondering just what could have been done differently.  The popular opinion at the time, as is now in the wake of the Daniel Tosh rape jokes, is that some things are never okay to joke about.  I believe that not everything is funny but can be made funny, and that this skit could have been funny too.

For the purposes of discussing this skit we’ll forego the reality that a lot of hard work and thought needed to go into the skit, hard work and thought that just wasn’t done.  What I’ve essentially boiled the whole thing down two is context and character.  There is a hilarious episode of the cult television show Strangers with Candy where the school performs the Lorraine Hansberry play, A Raisin in the Sun.  One of the best examples of 20th century African American literature and an all black cast.  In the episode the drama teacher Mr. Jellineck (Paul Dinello) casts all the white kids in the cast as the main characters and all the black kids as trees.

On the surface this sounds similar to the clown skit, but it’s very different in its result.  The context and character of the show tells us that our main characters are ignorant, self-obsessed idiots.  They’re not being malicious, they’re being dumb, and as an audience we laugh at their stupidity.  The audience members had no context for who the clowns were, it was never established that they were ignorant idiots.  The original intention was for the audience to hate the clowns by the end, to literally boo them off stage and were they to have tomatoes, throw tomatoes at them.  When you don’t really know who these people are that you’re watching, you don’t know whether they themselves are ignorant or just flat out racist.  The clowns were trying to do a good job but their ignorance caused them to fail.  That’s a subtle shift to read and if you miss the mark the ramifications are disastrous.

So often this is exactly what conservative humor and conservative comedians get wrong, they first try and establish themselves as moral arbiters and connect with the audience honestly, then move into the more offensive territory.  This would be fine if they didn’t start out as “likable people” only to reinvent themselves mid-set as offensive characters.

Racial humor is one thing, but when it comes to Daniel Tosh the issue is with rape, and Jane Doe’s claim that it is never funny.  If that’s true then why have I heard so many funny rape jokes.  Sarah Silverman, John Mulaney, Andy Daly, and while writing this article I was listening to Aziz Ansari’s album Dangerously Delicious to discover that he’s made rape jokes too.  I’m not going to argue that rape is or isn’t funny, for the purpose of this article we’ll assume that a funny rape joke can be told.

How do they do it?  There’s a few different angles to take, the first is pretty simple.  You acknowledge how awful rape is and how awful it’s use in the joke they’re telling is.  Before Aziz’s rape joke he sets it up by telling us how terrible it is.  John Mulaney also operates under the assumption that the audience knows rape is wrong and that he knows it’s wrong too.  The famous Louis CK 9-11 joke works because he acknowledges it’s wrong by using self-deprecating humor to tear himself down.

On the other side of the coin you have Rape jokes from people like Andy Daly, Sarah Silverman, and Daniel Tosh all of whom are different on stage, they’re playing a character.  Not a character in a sense that they wear a funny hat and pretend to be someone else entirely (Andy Daly is the exception). They’re characters in that they are playing a version of themselves, one who often is ignorant, self-obsessed, and insensitive.

Sarah Silverman is probably the queen of AIDS jokes, but that doesn’t mean that I believe that she thinks that the movie Philadelphia is a comedy, but Sarah Silverman on stage probably would.  Andy Daly is blatantly a different person when he makes his rape jokes, and that person we learn is pretty terrible.

From what I’ve read the past few days it seems that most in the media believe that Daniel Tosh is fully himself on stage.  In reality he’s a caricature of himself as well, a boorish frat boy who says a slough of awful things and we as an audience we laugh at how ridiculous Tosh is, not because we agree with what he says.  This isn’t a new thing for him, just look back to his first Comedy Central special and you’ll find that he’s been consistent in his stage presence.  Is it his fault that Jane Doe wasn’t aware of this fact when she saw him at the Laugh Factory?  According to the website the story first appeared on Jane has learned her lesson and will now look up a comedian before she goes to their show.

The final problem of this whole debacle is the fear that there may be people in Tosh’s audience who don’t know he’s a character and agree with him thinking he’s genuine.  Obviously Jane Doe believed this was the case, that the crowd was laughing because they agreed, when in fact it was the opposite.  Unfortunately I just don’t think there’s anything we can do in regards to those people who don’t understand that Tosh is a character and agree with his view points.  These are lessons they should have learned long ago and we shouldn’t insist that comedians teach that lesson.

Not everything is funny, but anything can be made funny, but just because others are laughing doesn’t mean that you must find it humorous as well.  Should you find yourself in Jane Doe’s shoes, where everyone around you is laughing at something that you don’t find funny just get up and leave, don’t ruin it for everyone else.

andy daly ~ nine sweaters

April 10, 2012 in comedy reviews, reviews

In an article I wrote some time ago about comedian Kyle Kinane, I mentioned that his album Death of the Party, is one of two albums that any serious comedy nerd should own from the last ten years.  The other album is Andy Daly’s Nine Sweaters, of course.

Without context, if you were to tell me that there was this hilarious comedy album by a guy who plays nine different characters, I’d tell you that you’re full of shit.  Actually I’d be very nice to your face and tell you that I would give it a listen, but in my mind I’d be saying that you’re completely full of shit.  If however, we were talking about Andy Daly’s album Nine Sweaters, I’d be dead wrong.  Because this album is hysterical.

The concept is simple, Andy portrays nine different characters who all wear a different signature sweater, though that fact is mostly inconsequential.  If you’re not immediately familiar with Andy Daly, you’ve probably seen him and didn’t realize it.  He ranks right up there with actors like Rob Huebel or Paul Scheer in terms of guest appearances on just about any comedy television show you can name.  It was Mad TV that gave him his real break, despite being a pretty not hilarious show.  Even he has admitted that it wasn’t really his thing.  Regardless, it provided him with the opportunity to move on to other better roles.

He’s had a minor role in a dozen or so movies including Semi-Pro with Will Ferrell, most notably he played principal Terrence Cutler on the HBO series EastBound and Down.  I first became a diehard fan in 2007 when I moved to Los Angeles and watched him perform every Saturday night in Asssscat at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre.  That’s the kind of improv show that separates the greats from the so so’s, he’s a great.

Nine Sweaters was recorded live at the UCB theater over nine weeks and defies the belief that character albums are terrible.  Character albums are gimmicky and overly humble, in order to be seen as funny you have to be so familiar with the character that they are almost more famous than the comedian playing them.  If you can’t tell, I’d rather wear shoes two sizes to small than listen to a character album.

Unless you’re a huge comedy nerd and have been closely following Andy in his appearances on Comedy Bang Bang, formally Comedy Death Ray, or his many appearances at comedy clubs, you’re not going to know any of these characters.  He plays right into the stereotype of the character album, on the surface they’re all as sweet and innocent as grandmas apple pie.  Somewhere along that characters journey they take a descent down a nightmarish hellscape of depravity.  From The Donny and Marie Show to Lars Von Trier.

Take my favorite character Hap Arden (A Star Is Born).  He comes out like an All American affable guy from Nebraska just looking to make it in Hollywood.  As he tells his story it just gets darker and darker involving serious self destructive behavior at the Mark Twain Hotel.  It climaxes when he gets roped into the scam that is Scientology, and confesses everything he’s ever been ashamed of.  What follows is a laundry list of indiscretions that would get anyone locked up for the rest of their lives.  Putting a rattlesnake in the ball pit at Gymboree, training a stray dog to attack Chinese people, and writing an anonymous letter to his math teacher that made her pack up and leave town, are the more tame examples.

The horrific atrocities committed by these characters is played so well by Andy that you can’t help but laugh.  It’s like hearing Mike Brady or Mr. Rogers talk about a failed suicide attempt and then killing a woman’s cat and making her eat it.  The turn to the dark side is timed so precisely and played so straight that it never feels as terrible as it sounds, it’s just plain hilarious.  Actually, it is as terrible as it sounds, it’s supposed to.  He wants you to love these characters at first then then be terrified by them.

I’ll say it again because that’s just how much I mean it, for any serious comedy nerd there are two albums from the last ten years that are a must own Kyle Kinane’s Death of the Party, and Andy (known as Andrew for the album) Daly’s Nine Sweaters.  The Album is available on AST records or Amazon and itunes digitally.

kyle kinane, death of the party

December 6, 2011 in event reviews, reviews

I have an idea, I’m calling this an idea and not a theory because it is not a tested idea, in fact I just came up with it prior to writing this article.  The idea is this, your favorite comedians say a lot more about you then your favorite books, music or movies.  For instance, what does it say about me that my favorite movies are The Black Stallion, Step Brothers, The Empire Strikes Back, and Pulp Fiction?  Similarly what kind of person likes, Spalding Gray books, Harry Potter, Herman Hesse, and Patti Smith’s, Just Kids?  If you think about it long enough you can probably figure out what they mean, but on the surface the comedians I enjoy say the most about me.

Last Friday my wife and I took the drive down to Tacoma and the Grit City Comedy Club.  For those of you not from the Pacific Northwest, imagine living in Los Angeles (let’s say Silverlake) and driving down to Long Beach to watch a comedy show.  Tacoma is a worn down industrial city which as described by my wife “looked like a Dickens novel” and by Kyle Kinane “a suicide of a city.”  The only reason you might be in the area of Grit City is either to see a comedy show or visit the Meth Center located across the street.  We were there to see Kyle Kinane.

Kyle Kinane is a true blue collar comedian, not blue collar in the way that Jeff Foxworthy, Larry the Cable the Guy or Bill Engvall is.  That’s not really blue collar, that’s white collar masquerading as a pair of Wranglers and a comical sleeveless denim shirt.  Kyle speaks with equal parts self deprecation, working class, and creative writing major.

He speaks affectionately about his years working in warehouses, crashing forklifts, delivering cookies in Los Angeles, and selling gourmet cake decorations.  He share a kinship with those people, even in his bit about the subtle racism of Trader Joe’s he doesn’t look down upon the employees, he understands their plight, not because they wear Hawiian t-shirts, but for the health care.

What I’m trying to say is that he doesn’t have a shtick, he’s relatable.  Not only because of his working class association but because he comes from a loving family, and he knows what it’s like to struggle with poorly made life decisions.  This isn’t necessarily unique, if one looks hard enough I know they could find dozens of comedians who fit that description.  For me what makes Kyle different and hilarious is his almost poetic writing.

Before I loose you with that last statement let me explain myself.  It’s not unusual for comedians to write their jokes in a well thought out way, sometimes they develop them through improvisation, in some cases you can tell it’s just a memorized monologue.  Even a poorly written joke can be salvaged with a good delivery.  Kyle has the ability to write exceptionally funny jokes and deliver them perfectly.  I mean it as a compliment when I say that you can see the work he puts into his craft.  Okay, so that statement about poetics is a little overboard, they do have a very creative writing degree feel to them though.

Take this line:

If anybody has ever been curious as to what it might be like to be a stripped bare toothless cog spinning freely and ineffectually in the working machine of society, might I offer selling cake decorations over the phone to strangers.

He has a beautiful sense of imagery, knowing just the right words to describe a scene from his life and make it the funniest thing you’ve ever heard.  You also get little gems like this:

I studied, I studied literature, and as you drive with a buddy down the highway and you see a tow truck towing another tow truck, and your about to say something real pretentious like, ‘well, look that could be a metaphor for fallen heros or how things that we view as pillars of strength sometimes need help themselves.  All that winds up coming out of your mouth is, ‘look at those tow trucks trying to fuck each other.’

Last friday I laughed harder than I had in a long time and when we left the club Kyle was standing right outside the door.  Generally I’m afraid of sounding like a psychotic fanatic and try not to interact, in this case I thanked him for the show.

When I lived in Los Angeles I was just a block away from the Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre.  Wonderful, gut busting comedy for free or nearly free was always at my finger tips.  In the Pacific Northwest I had to drive to Tacoma to see a show like that.  My thanking him was absolutely sincere because of all the many things I’ve missed this last year, great live comedy has been one of them.

Back to my original point about comedians saying more about you then your choice of music, movies or books.  I’m white with loving parents, for reasons yet to be fully understood I spent $100k on an art school education, now I’m pursuing my dream, and more often then I like to admit I do dumb shit that I can’t explain.  I’m not going to spoon feed the comparison for you, you should just listen to Kyle Kinane’s album: The Death of the Party.

Speaking of which, there are two comedy albums from the last ten years that any serious comedy fan should own.  The first is Andy Daly’s, Nine Sweaters.  The second is Kyle Kinane’s, The Death of the Party.

My only regret here is that I didn’t see Kyle until his second to last night in town.  If you want to see if he’ll be coming to your town soon take a look here.